21 XSE AWD for 47k or 22 XLE FWD for 44k?

XSE has 39k miles. Listing here:
https://www.carmax.com/car/25789416?utm_campaign=AppShareiOSShareCar&utm_source=AppShareiOS&utm_medium=AppShareiOS

XLE has 30k miles. Listing here:
https://www.carmax.com/car/25698614?utm_campaign=AppShareiOSShareCar&utm_source=AppShareiOS&utm_medium=AppShareiOS

I know CarMax tends to price on the higher side. But are these prices reasonable? Not a lot of new ones available nearby, but I’m still on the lookout. Just getting into the Sienna market.

Honestly, you might be better off finding a new one at a similar price. You can get a 2025 XLE FWD around $47K or an XSE for about $50K, depending on some add-ons. If you can stretch the budget, go for new.

It’s wild to see both of these with over 30k miles, and the XSE is still priced higher than its original cost back in 2021. Maybe I’m missing something, but this seems off. Same story with the 22 XLE. The used car market, especially for Toyotas, is still pretty tough, and even more so with Siennas. Prices going up for used Siennas? That’s just absurd. If you’re paying this much, might as well go new. Sure, a new one might take time to find, but for the price, I think it’s worth it. Good luck!

@Leander
Remember when buying a car with 30k miles meant you’d save a good chunk of cash? Feels like those days are long gone.

Zain said:
@Leander
Remember when buying a car with 30k miles meant you’d save a good chunk of cash? Feels like those days are long gone.

Yeah, Toyota keeps its value pretty well, but it’s still surprising to see a Sienna appreciate even after 30k miles. The used market has been weird since the shortage and COVID, and it might take a while to settle down.

@Leander
Thanks, I guess I’ll have to brace myself for the hunt to find a new one.

Trevor said:
@Leander
Thanks, I guess I’ll have to brace myself for the hunt to find a new one.

No problem. Best way is to have a clear idea of what you want, then just start calling around dealerships. I like doing most of it over the phone, saves me from dealing with pushy salespeople. With Siennas, as long as you aren’t paying a premium or extras, MSRP is the goal. If you’re in SoCal, wait times can be pretty long, but don’t overthink it. You can also try Costco Auto for an easier process. Good luck!

@Leander
I’ll check out Costco Auto. Also, what does DIO mean?

Trevor said:
@Leander
I’ll check out Costco Auto. Also, what does DIO mean?

DIO stands for “Dealer Installed Options.” When you buy a car, the spec sheet will list all the packages and extras it comes with. Some are factory-installed (FIO) or port-installed (PIO), but DIOs are things the dealer adds, often to bump up the price. Just watch out for those—they’re usually not necessary.

Try joining a no-markup Toyota group on Facebook and post what you’re looking for. Sometimes a nearby dealership will respond with what they have.

This is nuts… who’s actually willing to pay these prices?

TundraTitans4 said:
This is nuts… who’s actually willing to pay these prices?

I’m not if it’s not worth it. Didn’t know much about Sienna prices, but now I get these aren’t a great deal.

If you can, just go for a new Sienna. Otherwise, maybe check out alternatives like the Honda Odyssey. You can get a new one a bit cheaper than MSRP, and it’s got a V6, so it’s a bit less on gas.

Sayer said:
If you can, just go for a new Sienna. Otherwise, maybe check out alternatives like the Honda Odyssey. You can get a new one a bit cheaper than MSRP, and it’s got a V6, so it’s a bit less on gas.

I’d be open to that if the AC was decent.

@Montana
Do Odysseys have AC problems?

Trevor said:
@Montana
Do Odysseys have AC problems?

I went with an Odyssey, and the AC’s been fine so far.

Renny said:

Trevor said:
@Montana
Do Odysseys have AC problems?

I went with an Odyssey, and the AC’s been fine so far.

It’s more of an issue for rear-facing car seats. Honda didn’t add a second system for the back like other three-row vehicles, so the vents don’t always reach.

Trevor said:
@Montana
Do Odysseys have AC problems?

Yeah, if you’ve got rear-facing seats, the vent setup isn’t great. Honda didn’t put in a separate rear system, so the air doesn’t always reach properly. Seen quite a few posts about it around.

I was in the same spot, looking at used ones, but the prices were wild. Decided to bite the bullet and got a new 25 XSE coming next month. If you’re open to new, maybe call around and see what’s in production. Good luck!

I got a quote for $46k on a new 24 XLE, but ended up going with a new Odyssey 25 EXL for $43k. Both had extras like all-weather mats and roof rails. This was in SC, where the sales tax is just a flat $500.