I’m ordering a new RAV4, and it comes with a moonroof. However, I read about some issues with Toyota moonroofs and even a lawsuit. \n\nHere’s my confusion: The dealership calls it a moonroof, but looking at the RAV4 XLE, it seems like a small sunroof. I always thought sunroofs were smaller and located above the front seats, while moonroofs spanned the entire roof. Can anyone clarify the difference?
The Outback is larger and more akin to a station wagon, while the RAV4 is a compact SUV. Consumer Reports gives the Outback an 80, the Forester an 87, and the RAV4 Hybrid a 78 (gas model scores 72). I love my 2023 XSE RAV4, but keep in mind Subaru lets you customize and order, while Toyota relies on allocations, which can mean longer wait times.
Dealer service availability can be a deciding factor. My local Subaru dealer is backed up by three months for service, so I switched to Toyota.
I was deciding between the Forester, Outback, and RAV4. The RAV4 Hybrid and Prime stood out for their excellent mileage and the $7,500 tax credit (Prime). Subaru has more rugged AWD with a connected driveshaft, while Toyota’s eAWD is more reactive. If you’re not in snowy mountains all winter, the difference may not be significant.
I went with the RAV4 for reliability, MPG, non-CVT transmission, towing capacity (3,500 lbs), and styling. Subaru CVTs and turbo engines didn’t appeal to me.
Subaru’s belt CVTs are less reliable compared to Toyota’s eCVTs, which are among the most dependable transmissions available. If longevity is a priority, I’d lean toward the RAV4.
Tarian said:
Subaru’s belt CVTs are less reliable compared to Toyota’s eCVTs, which are among the most dependable transmissions available. If longevity is a priority, I’d lean toward the RAV4.
A friend’s 2019 Outback’s transmission failed at under 80K miles. It was replaced under warranty, but it would’ve cost $9K otherwise.
I ordered an Outback XT for faster delivery but kept my RAV4 XSE order (due in 2025). The Outback is smooth, spacious, and quiet, and I prefer the infotainment setup. That said, I still like the RAV4 for long-term reliability and efficiency.
We’re choosing between these two for a hybrid model. Inventory is an issue for Toyota, so we’re considering Subaru. We often go on camping trips with two 60lb dogs and lots of gear. Any advice or experiences with either vehicle that could help?
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I chose the RAV4 Hybrid XLE for better MPG, smaller size (easier parking), and Toyota reliability. Subarus are great too, but I prefer the RAV4’s blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert as standard on the XLE. Good luck!
@West
The Outback would suit your needs better for space and AWD.
I previously owned a Crosstrek and loved its AWD and reliability. Now considering an Outback for more space but intrigued by the RAV4 Hybrid for its MPG. The RAV4 has a slightly less rugged AWD system but much better fuel economy. Any thoughts from others?
Subaru’s reliance on belt CVTs has turned me off. While they may be more durable than Nissan’s or GM’s, the design inherently limits longevity and fun.