Now that the 6th gen is out, I keep seeing complaints about it having a 4-cylinder engine. From what I’ve seen, it should be quick enough for an SUV. Why is this such a big deal? Is it just because there’s no other option?
Until people actually start driving them, it’s all just guessing.
Chandler said:
Until people actually start driving them, it’s all just guessing.
Funny thing is, Toyota already put this exact engine, transmission, and suspension in another vehicle. It’s been out for over a year and has no major issues. So, we kinda already know how it’ll perform.
People just don’t like change.
BrianCopland said:
People just don’t like change.
Glad to see this comment at the top. Toyota has been making reliable engines for decades, but suddenly people act like they forgot how to build one.
Main concerns: more moving parts, added complexity, potential higher repair costs.
Shawn said:
Main concerns: more moving parts, added complexity, potential higher repair costs.
Is this engine harder to work on than the old V6, or is it because of the extra components?
@Frey
This one is a turbo 4-cylinder (hybrid on some trims), while the old V6 was naturally aspirated and proven to last 500K miles. Big difference.
Masitsa said:
@Frey
This one is a turbo 4-cylinder (hybrid on some trims), while the old V6 was naturally aspirated and proven to last 500K miles. Big difference.
A dual overhead cam V6 actually has more moving parts than a turbo setup.
@Dax
Maybe, but that V6 has already proven itself over hundreds of thousands of miles. The new turbo engines haven’t been tested as long.
@Frey
The old 5th-gen V6 was overbuilt. It had way more durability than it needed. That’s why people could supercharge them and still get 300K+ miles.
The new engine is smaller and relies on turbo boost for power. It’s running at its limits more often, which could mean shorter lifespan.
@Thorn
Is that just an assumption, or is there data on that? Plenty of turbo engines last a long time.
@Thorn
I had a Subaru WRX that lasted over 250K miles, and it was a turbo 4-cylinder. It really depends on how Toyota designed this one.
Will said:
@Thorn
I had a Subaru WRX that lasted over 250K miles, and it was a turbo 4-cylinder. It really depends on how Toyota designed this one.
Subaru engines are known for blowing head gaskets, so not the best example.
@Frey
Small turbocharged gas engines tend to run hotter, which can lead to more wear. Probably fine for a small car, but for an SUV that people want to last 20+ years? Not so sure.
Nothing wrong with it. People just love to complain. Every time a new model comes out, they act like it’s the end of the world.
Stormy said:
Nothing wrong with it. People just love to complain. Every time a new model comes out, they act like it’s the end of the world.
Engines with turbos need more frequent oil changes. Also, they work harder than naturally aspirated ones, which means more stress on components.
Turbos are usually the first thing to go bad. We’ll see what happens once people put some real miles on these.
Luchivya said:
Turbos are usually the first thing to go bad. We’ll see what happens once people put some real miles on these.
Turbo failure was a big issue 20 years ago. Today, it’s a solved problem.
Some of this is just ego. For some reason, people think you need a V6 to be ‘manly.’